Aaaaaand here we go. Debating logically and simply questioning your contradictory statement is “trolling”. But yeah, believe it or not, I’m not looking for a fight with you either. Have a good one.
Are black men really bigger?
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You never actually had even a chance of a fight with me.
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You can't ask it like that IMHO.
The "something to it" part can only be answered by looking at scientific studies.
The "myth" path is a cultural discussion - and primarily an American one if we have to follow your intentions. The culture is very different here - and mostly without the ludicrous racial under-/overtones you guys have. Although there's a certain cultural export from you - even on racism.
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I haven't seen studies on this but it seems likely and perhaps even obvious IMHO.
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Nothing racist about it. There are physical attributes associated with certain races. That is a fact of life. However just because they associated with a specific race doesn’t mean members of other races can’t also possess that same attribute. The myth/stereotype came from someplace and has stayed in place all the way to today. I just asked what people’s opinions were on that. I know cultures are different in other places and I have had the experience of living in three different countries. But jump straight onto the I’m American so it must be racist in nature bandwagon. Hmm...
Ok so you’re basically saying that you believe it’s true (its not) just because it had to “come from some place”, yet don’t want actual science interfering with people’s opinions on a message board. Logic - 404 error, page not found.
I don't want to make this too long, but races aren't a thing for humans.
Intra group differences are more than Inter group differences, if you consider phenotypes that are typical of each macro area.
"Phenotypes that are typical of each macro area" In other words, races. Lol. Just because race is such a loaded concept doesn't mean that it is conceptually incorrect.
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This. They're not bigger hard according to all available evidence, but it seems very plausible they're bigger flaccid. Africa's hot but you need a grower in the cold cuz that's the last place you want frostbite!
There are of course exceptions to this, Mandingo & Lex Steele themselves being massive growers & Danny D being a total shower, but it's entirely possible.
“Opinions based on observations” but not “random stories or anecdotes.”
Buddy, I think those are the same thing.
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No an opinion can be a few sentences but a story is a few paragraphs.
I do appreciate the topic. I haven’t been around here long enough to view all 100+ pages (and really don’t wanna). I thought people were looking for studies with a goal to answer the question, of which I only found 3. All three had the same answer (yes, bigger on average in comparison) but those studies were shot down immediately even though they were conducted by medial professionals just like with most non-self reported studies. I wasn’t suggesting empirical evidence, but this is a sensitive website, so chaos happened, lol.
And yes, phenotypes are real, I agree. And in my experience (if you’re still looking for those), I have seen penises of all size on all races, but the common outliers were Black men, having larger ones (tops and bottoms). But on average (with regards to all the men I’ve been with) Black men did fair larger.
Wait…. So you think it’s possible that Black men are bigger flaccid, but not hard?
So perpetuating the “myth” that Black men are bigger is racist according to you (based on your numerous posts in this thread), but somehow the statement “seems likely and perhaps even obvious” in reference to flaccid size is an exemption on your part?
Black men bigger when erect - racist.
Black men bigger when flaccid - not racist…..???
I mean, the obsession with the Black male phallus stems from the European slave traders who took notice of the low hanging flaccid phalluses of naked African men, and thus deemed them animalistic. So how are you not perpetuating the same thing by making that statement? Seems very odd that you’re flipping the script.
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Here we are Post Number 2354 + -
The entire size thing , comes down to comparison. For all we know the first genius, who made the claim all black men have large penises, were themselves micro / small in size. So even an average penis to them would be large. Sadly in life all it takes is one person with a big mouth and an opinion , to state an untruth . Often this untruth becomes a reality by word of mouth and rumor.
There is a saying about Fiction made fact
Millions of people have read Sherlock Holmes, millions of people have watched the movies. Sadly millions of people believe he was a real person; and not just a fictional. People will argue he must have been real . No
Robin Hood, many people have read the books, watch the many versions of the movies. ( Men in tights comedy, is my favorite ) . Many millions of people will argue he was real , when most likely he was just an English myth, that became a hero / reality to millions.
But, back to topic. Yes there some above average / freakishly huge men of color in the world , this is undeniable . But for the million and millions of the rest of us, we have to settle with just being average .
The entire size thing , comes down to comparison. For all we know the first genius, who made the claim all black men have large penises, were themselves micro / small in size. So even an average penis to them would be large. Sadly in life all it takes is one person with a big mouth and an opinion , to state an untruth . Often this untruth becomes a reality by word of mouth and rumor.
There is a saying about Fiction made fact
Millions of people have read Sherlock Holmes, millions of people have watched the movies. Sadly millions of people believe he was a real person; and not just a fictional. People will argue he must have been real . No
Robin Hood, many people have read the books, watch the many versions of the movies. ( Men in tights comedy, is my favorite ) . Many millions of people will argue he was real , when most likely he was just an English myth, that became a hero / reality to millions.
But, back to topic. Yes there some above average / freakishly huge men of color in the world , this is undeniable . But for the million and millions of the rest of us, we have to settle with just being average .
The issue is not that it's "conceptually incorrect" but that the handful of attributes used to demarcate racial groups are simply arbitrary, which is why we say there is no scientific basis to it. This is also why it is significant, as @Daemon85 said, that on average, intra-group differences are more than inter-group differences.
I think black guys are bigger on average, and the huge more often than any other race. But all huge cocks are rare, they still own more of them.
I still feel like when girls are with average sized black guys, mentally they think it is big, because they have been socially told it’s big.
funny thing I was watching the new HBO show Minx with my wife. In the montage of dicks, there were two black guys, one was huge, she was impressed, then the other was pretty average. She thought the average black guy was surprisingly small (I’m bigger soft).
she was a bit expecting them both to be like the bigger one. She was not, super surprised as she is a nurse. She said the black guys she has seen were mostly the same as everyone else, maybe one or two were visibly bigger than most. But the biggest ones she has seen, and more often have been white guys. But in our area there are way more white guys to sample…..so it’s not an accurate sample.
anyway, if y’all are interested in the minx penis montage, here it is MINX NUDE SCENES - AZNude Men
i still things black guys tend to be more muscular and hung. Guys I’ve seen growing up have almost all been above average
I still feel like when girls are with average sized black guys, mentally they think it is big, because they have been socially told it’s big.
funny thing I was watching the new HBO show Minx with my wife. In the montage of dicks, there were two black guys, one was huge, she was impressed, then the other was pretty average. She thought the average black guy was surprisingly small (I’m bigger soft).
she was a bit expecting them both to be like the bigger one. She was not, super surprised as she is a nurse. She said the black guys she has seen were mostly the same as everyone else, maybe one or two were visibly bigger than most. But the biggest ones she has seen, and more often have been white guys. But in our area there are way more white guys to sample…..so it’s not an accurate sample.
anyway, if y’all are interested in the minx penis montage, here it is MINX NUDE SCENES - AZNude Men
i still things black guys tend to be more muscular and hung. Guys I’ve seen growing up have almost all been above average
Interesting. A male frontal show. Gotta watch that.
The thing with flaccid dicks is that they vary so much. Some of those guys in the pics you linked are visibly semi or fluffed.And the match has been lit once again on this unsubstantiated joke of a thread…
Intra-group differences may be more numerous than inter-group differences but to suggest that inter-group differences used to demarcate race are arbitrary is disingenuous. There is a scientific basis to it. Plenty of phenotypical differences exist between populations for geographical, environmental, and genetic reasons. Some basic rules of evolutionary biology still apply to humans, just like to any other species. "Race" is just the term that people have come up with to categorize some of these phenotypical differences as they apply to homo sapiens. Essentially, you guys are just playing a semantic game to avoid the word "race" because of this false idea that it has all these inferiority/superiority connotations. Playing with semantics in this way isn't especially helpful with regards to confronting and dealing with racism, though, like you guys think it is.
Now I don't know if it's my turn to accuse you of playing semantic games, or maybe you misunderstand a bit and hence the mix-up , but I am very glad that you used the term "populations" to describe specific group of people living in a particular place, and hence may share certain characteristics. It is the right term, and has much of a scientific basis to it, and the contexts to which it is applied are well-defined.
Also, I didn't know basic evolutionary biology applied to humans since God created us fully formed (I joke) but to respond to your other point, "Race" is the categorization of some ARBITRARY phenotypical differences among humans, hence why we say there is no scientific basis to the categorization. For example, the fact that Africans are more diverse genetically than the inhabitants of the rest of the world combined shows how unhelpful it would be to reduce them to a single population, and moreso, how arbitrary the attributes we use to classify them as a single race are.
